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Voice
Crack
October 1997
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Andy Gühl
and Norbert Möslang are more commonly known as Voice Crack, they
live in a small town called St. Gallen, located about 100 kilometers
from Zurich. Their collaboration together has spanned nearly three decades.
I first met Voice Crack when they came to Atlanta in 1996. They performed
in the Mattress Factory, and all whom witnessed it were speechless.
I had planned on visiting them in Switzerland when we first started
our planning stages for this expedition.
Charity
and I stayed in their studio which overlooked one of the oldest churches
in St Gallen , it dated back to the thirteeenth century. We interviewed
them in their studio which was surrounded by everyday crack'd electronics.
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PJ:
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Norbert, maybe you could give us a little background
on the history of Voice Crack?
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NM:
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We
began our collaboration in 1972. At this time we played normal instruments
like piano , saxophone, bass clarinet, contra bass and percussion.
Andy played the bass, bass clarinet and percussion. We also played
self-made instruments and used, everyday electronics. In 1983 we
decided to only play our everyday cracked electronics. Since then
we stopped playing normal instruments. |
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CE:
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Can
you explain what 'cracked everyday electronics' are?
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AG:
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If
you look on the table for example (the table is filled with broken
electronic pieces). If you put this apparatus (a small device one
would find in a hospital) on your body you will feel some vibrations
directly to the body. If you put some electricity through it you
will hear a pulsating buzzing sound. This is one cracked everyday
electronic. |
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PJ:
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So you've
created a different use for a standard electronic device.
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(Norbert
leans over and picks up a bicycle light. It, too, has a constant pulse
of light flashes. He then turns on a receiver and takes the light and
sweeps it over the receiver. The static changes to beeps and bleeps
as the light comes into contact with the sound waves of the receiver.)
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NM:
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This
here is a possibility to use light as an instrument.
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PJ:
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How did
you discover that there was other uses for these devices?
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AG:
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(holding
an ancient recording device) This is a microphone that was used
as a pickup on my cello. I performed the sound with an oscillator.
For me, this is one of the first electronic instruments. Using this
amplification transformation, we found an electronic wave, so we
opened this machine and if you touched it inside it would make unusual
sounds. Doing all of this stuff we found other acoustical sounds.
This was twenty years ago. |
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PJ:
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Could
you discuss some of the recording procedures that you have in the studio?
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NM:
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Most
of the records that we've done have been live in the studio. We
didn't use the possibilities of the studio. It's cheaper if you
only spend one or two days in the studio. We are still very interested
in using the actual studio as a cracked electronic device itself. |
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PJ:
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How did
the name 'Voice Crack' evolve?
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NM:
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In
the beginning we put out records just under our names. The third
LP we did was entitled 'Voice Crack'. After this record we went
to the States and people called us Voice Crack |
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PJ:
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Could
you discuss your installations that you've worked on?
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AG:
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When
we work together we use waves. We use optical waves to make acoustical
waves and if you work with optical waves you can make optical installations.
The installation art that we produce interacts with the people at
the installation. This cracked tape recorder here was used in the
recent installation in New York. We used a looped sound that was
amplified once people were in the room. If there were no people
in the room you would only hear the motors going . If many people
in the room moved you had different sounds . This was one example.
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PJ:
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Is this
similar to the old echo-plex machines?
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AG:
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Yes
it's a looped tape . . .
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NM:
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One
of the other installations that we did, you only see waveforms,
no sound. Some pictures have a sound source, other pictures are
only created by magnetic waves. The TV's are placed on record players
on which we placed magnets, and by turning the magnets they create
a moving picture. Sound forms on other TV's are changed by magnetic
waves. |
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AG:
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We
started with the contacts on this speaker here. If I take these
contacts and connect them to an old TV tube . . . if you do this
correctly . . . you will produce a picture. You can change the volume
and it changes the waveform. It's a very simple physical thing that
you can see on the oscillagraph. We've played concerts with a TV
monitor before us and people would look at the waveforms changing.
It was like a picture conducting the sound. |
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PJ:
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Are there
any artists work that have inspired your work ?
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NM:
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Life
is the best thing for inspiration . . . little things that are all
over. |
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AG:
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To
produce art, I can find things in the mountains, changing lights
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CE:
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Where
do you find all of this equipment that you use?
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AG:
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On
the streets....... rubbish. Twenty years ago here, people would
throw things away that were very useful. A lot of materials that
we have were found on the street. We know many people who have special
things. Friends will bring us things . . . |
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NM:
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We
also find things in toy stores.Things we can use. |
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PJ:
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You've
both worked together for twenty-five years. What are your working methods
with each other?
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NM:
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We
need to see a mind doctor. (lots of laughter) |
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AG:
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Twenty five
years is a long time, but it is also a short time. For me it's no
problem. We both have our own things that we work on. |
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PJ:
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How do
you feel about the support that you get from consulates and institutes?
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NM:
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The
curator of the Swiss Institute saw an installation that we did .
. . she asked us if we would be interested in doing something in
New York in the Swiss Institute. The other thing is, if we get an
invitation from a consulate abroad we have the possibility to do
something. We have to write a letter and if they're impressed then
we just travel there. It's good to have these possibilities. You
have to ask them, the different organizations.
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AG:
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That's
the good thing about working together for twenty-five, people don't
think that we think ten minutes about something. |
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PJ:
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How
has the media responded to your work, have they been supportive? |
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AG:
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People
write about the music, not so much the installations. |
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PJ:
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Do you
have your own publishing company?
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NM:
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Most
of our records we publish by ourselves because we had some problems
with companies that did publish our first work. We found it was
better to publish ourselves because we then had control but, if
you have a good company it's also good. The last record we did was
published [through] a company of a friend, but there we had control.
The big problems . . . are distribution, because if you're a very
little company, it's hard to get the records to the shops. Because
the music is not easy listening, it's not easy to find a shop which
buys our stuff. But there are a lot of people all over the world
that are interested in this kind of music. |
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PJ:
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Have you
ever thought about producing an event that combined cracked electronics
with traditional instruments?
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NM:
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If
someone would write the piece (more laughter) |
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PJ:
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What are
some of your thoughts about the Internet?
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NM:
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It's
like a great jungle, you have to find your own way, like in a big
bookstore or a library. The most difficult thing about the Internet
is finding the things that you are interested in. I think e-mail
is a very good thing to have, communication with people abroad,
this is a very good thing. |
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AG:
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It's
a game, you can go on the search machines, the e-mail stuff is very
quick. I used it four weeks ago to find materials in Zurich. It
was the first time that I did that. It works. This installation
here (he points to something in the back) happened because of communications
on the Internet. |
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PJ:
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Tell us
a little bit about your web site?
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AG:
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My
son did that. It comes very naturally to him. He has a small company
and designs web pages for other people too. Norbert knows how to
make the web stuff. In the future we will do it. |
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